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Imbus č.4, segrovky, gola sadu (stranový klíč) č.20 a 22, křížový šroubovák, technický benzín, štetku na lahve. Kupu hadrů. Trpělivost. Injekční stříkačku, olej (já dávám olej do vidlic SAE30, ale je možno použít třeba i motorový olej) Tento návod, nebo jiný návod :)




Vidlici rozděláme následovně:

1. Povolíme šroubovákem šroubek jistící kolečko štelování útlumu.
Vyndáme kuličku a pružinku.
2. Povolíme šrouby na spodku nohou.
3. Sundáme vnější nohy.

4. Sundáme gumové dorazy.

5. Očistíme hadrem vše od vazelíny.


6. Vyndáme tlumící patronu pomocí goly č.22 a očistíme hadrem.


7. Vyndáme pružinu a trny pomocí goly č.20. Zase vše očistíme od vazelíny. I pružinu.


8. Sundáme segrovku a distanční podložku. Nemusím dodávat, že vše očistíme hadrem.


9. Vyčistíme vnitřní nohy uvnitř hadrem. Vnější nohy uvnitř pomocí hadru, technického benzínu a štetky zbavíme vazelíny. Pokud máme vše očištěno, oddechneme si neboť máme většinu špinavé práce za sebou.


Složíme jí takto:

10.Vrátíme na původní místo distanční podložku se segrovkou (levá noha).


11.Prostrčíme sponí trn podložkou a nasadíme dorazy. Spodní doraz ( jsem si strčil dolu k segrovce aby mě trn nezajížděl a hořejšek jsem dal zároveň s koncem trnu. Vnitřní nohy dáme korunkou dolů.


12.Z vnějších nohou si sundáme pružinky z prachovek a pro jistotu si je nasadíme na obě nohy. Naštve to pokud na to člověk zapomene :)

13.Nastává složitější operace a tou je nasezení spodních noh na vnitřní, chce to trošku šikovnosti hlavně dávejte pozor na to aby prachovky nebyly nějak zdeformované dovnitř. Pokud se vám to povede tak jemně tlačte spodní nohy ke korunce až trn s těsněním narazí zevnitř na spodek nohy. Asi se stane, že dirka v těsnění na šroub nebude přesně na dirce v noze a tak použijte třeba šroubovák a trn si posuňte na prostředek.



14.Zašroubujte šroubek, zde je důležité dobře (na krev) dotáhnout, což se někdy povede, ale spíše se vám stane že se bude trn protáčet, tak dotáhněte co to jde. Nezoufejte, dotáhnete ho až bude vidlice kompletní.


15.Nasaďte pružinky.


16.Vložte tlumící patronu a zašroubujte šroubek. Pokud jde utáhněte na krev.

17. Injekční stříkačkou vstříkněte 40 ml oleje do každé nohy. Jak vidíte tlumící patrona není ze zhora uzavřená. A u nohy s pružinou olej také dolů proteče. Nemusíte se bát :)

18.Zašroubujte horní zátku tlumící patrony a zlehka dotáhněte golou. Opravdu zlehka!
19. Vložte pružinu a horní trn a dotáhněte golou.
20. Nasaďte pružinku a kuličku a štelovací kolečko, zašroubujte šroubkem.

Tak a máte hotovo.
Pár upozornění, pokud se vám nepovede utáhnout spodní šroubečky nadoraz tak je zkuste utáhnout když je vidlice stlačená (nejlépe pokud vám jí někdo zatalačí. A občas si kontrolujte jestli nemáte šroubky povolené ať vám to nevyteče spodem. Pokud by olej utíkal nějak výrazněji kolem těsnění tak to zpočátku ignorujte. Mělo by to přestat. Pokud ne, je něco špatně. Také bych doporučil výměnu oleje a vyčištění vidlice aspoň jednou za dva měsíce. Myslím si, že rozebrání vidlice není tak složité a určitě se to vyplatí.
Po každé jízdě otírejte prachovky! To by jste měli dělat i když je to třeba Marzocchi.

186 komentářů:

Anonymní řekl(a)...

nazdar,ked predelat RST na olejove mazanie tak co sa tam nachadza namiesto oleja ak si ju kupim novu?

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Cau. Ty sis asi ten clanek neprecetl, ze? Je tam vazelina. ;-)

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Kupil som si vidlicu RST storm a chod ma teda velmi neocaril je to dost tuhe a vracia to pomaly aj pri najrychlejsiom odskoku pomoze tomu vymena oleja v patrone? nejaky z mensou viskozitou.A dalsia vec mam ju 1den nechal som tam vazelinu nech sa to zabehne a vidlica k veceru strasne stvrdla z 18 cm zdvihu chodi iba 3cm pomoze na lepsi chod a "nemrznutie" mazanie olejom?

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Takze prerobil som dnes vidlicu na mazanie olejom a vsetko co som napisal vcera sa vylucilo vidlica beha nadherne cely zdvih a to aj z cervenou pruzinou Storm ma sice ine zlozenie ako R1 ale o to jednoduhsie (nema podlozku a segerku ale je tam navarene kovove koliecko,netreba segerkove klieste :)) mam ale jeden dotaz a ten sa tyka bodu 18.Zašroubujte horní zátku tlumící patrony a zlehka dotáhněte golou. Opravdu zlehka! prečo zlahka? dakujem za odpoved a RST powa :D

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matenko: protože je zbytečné to utahovat více a hlavně v zátce je více otvorů kam můžeš strčit pružinku a kuličku pod štelovací kolečko. U starších RST byly otvory přesně v rozích a tak když si to přetáhnul a po nějaké době si to chtěl povolit, tak si golou strhnul rohy. Pak nejde povolit, takže asi tak :)

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je mozne takto upravit aj vidlu rst launch T8 ? nemam tam ani nastavenie tlmenia... pytam sa lebo vsade je popisana iba uprava lepsich vidli :-(

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Upravil jsem na olejové mazání svoji vidli RST TR-PRO-I SL, plus jsem ještě vyměnil olej v patroně za 5W (do spodní zátky patrony jsem navrtal díru průměr 2,5mm, vyřízl závit M3 a mám tam šroub se zapuštěnou hlavou utěsněný motorovým silikonem). Akorát do pravý nohy jsem dal jen 35ml oleje, patrona je tam dost natěsno a 40ml bylo moc. Výsledek je, že vidle je rychlejší-není tak zatuhlá, lepší tlumí a přenáší daleko míň rázů do řídítek a o nějakým tečení oleje nemůže být řeč, kluzáky jsou potažený tenoučkým filmem oleje a na prachovkách se neudělá ani kapka. Úpravu nemůžu jinak než doporučit :-)

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Zdravím. Mám dotaz trochu mimo. Mám vazelínou mazanou klasickou vidlu RST Gila Tnl (elastomer,pružina, olejová tlumící patrona). Na mou váhu 69kg je dost tuhá, myslíte, že by pomohlo nahrazení vazelíny za olej a výměna pružiny za měkčí? Děkuji za odpověď

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Výměna vazelíny za olej pomůže jen trochu -budeš mít menší odpory v kluznejch pouzdrech, tesnění a prachovkách => vidlice bude svižnější a rychlejc reagovat, ale na tuhost to vliv mít nebude. Tuhost změníš akorát výměnou pružiny a elastomeru za měkčí, nebo výměnu oleje v patroně, při tvojí hmotnosti klidně 2,5W (to ti ale nedoporučuju a)musíš bejt zručnej kutil a vědět co a jak, protože podle servisáků je patrona nerozebiratelná a olej tudíž měnit nejde, takže musíš sám b)přijdeš o záruku, to ale nejspíš i při úpravě na olej :-) ).

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Tak jsem po přečtení článku předělal mou stařičkou vzduchovou RST Omegu,a SUPR.Chodí teď krásmě plynule a citlivě. Díky. Jen se chci zeptat:na vánoce si nadělím RST F1RST Platinum (no ježíšek), tak jestli ji mám taky zrovna předělat, zda to jde a tak.

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S tím F1STem, to jde udělat určitě, já bych to u této nové vidlice vyřešil jednoduše odšrouboval bych ze spodu vnější nohy, maličko je povytáhnul a stříknul olej, zašroboval a jezdil. Po nějaké delší době by to už chtělo určitě komplet rozdělat.

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Plánujem kúpiť rst storm super.A mal bi som pár otázok.Nechodí na dorazi .A s tou vazelínou to je ako ked pravidelne utriem nohi a nastriekam ich silikonom tak by mal chodiť pekne aj bez toho abi som ho musel prerobiť na olej a v zime s vazelínou neni moc tuhí.Lebo že ked sa prerobí na olej tak trochu grcia cez guferi a vitláča ich neprejaví sa takato uprava aj na životnosti vidlice.Dakujem za skorú odpoved.

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Hoy , mam rst gila t7 rocnik 2007 a sa chcem spytat ci bude fungovat to olejove mazanie aj na nej?? a kde zozeniem nove gufera??

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Zdar, mám objednanou rst storm air, kterej chci předělat na olej. Naštěstí sem našel tenhle návod tak bych to chtěl zkusit, ale jak s olejem ve vzduchový noze? přemejšlel sem, že když je ventilek nahoře, tudíž pozitivní komora nahoře, tak olej do pozitivní komory pod ventilek? jsem na dobrý vlně? Diskutujme. dík.

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ahoj mam rst r1 2008 a par problémov s ňou. Slzí noha u pružiny, pýtal som sa v obchodoch ale ani prachovky ani guferá nemali, asi ich budem musieť dať vyrobiť do nejakej firmy. Dalej sa oddelila čierna matka od patróny (ako na obr 6) jednoducho sa to odtrhlo. Prato vás prosim o radu , či nemáte skúsenosti s takýmito vecami.

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Čaute, chcel by som sa spýtať aký olej je vhodný do RST Storm Super.
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